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  GIVE A PITHY recounting of what 2012 did to or for you life!

  by Terry in

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  i moved in with my cousin deb and her husband bobby at the first of 2012.. this mean i didn't live alone any longer.

  that was both a good and a not so good thing!.

  i eat home cooked meals.

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  Terry

  2012 was the worst year of my life!

  * My lovebird died. He was 12 years old and never sick. I took him out of the cage and looks like he's dazed. He flaps his wings out, spins in a circle and is gasping for air. He dies a couple of seconds later. I bought him as a baby. He sat on my shoulders and slept in my hands.

  * My uncle passed away after serving the WTS over 50 years. Never got to see the '' new system. "

  * My mom, mother-in-law, brother and uncle all were in the hospital during 2012. We spent close to 30 days in all visiting them and many times not sleeping or having time to eat because of going to/from hospital.

  * Choked on a piece of bread. Luckily I didn't panic and stuck my finger down my throat to dislodge the bread. No one was home at the time.

  * Was diagnosed with sleep apnea and tinnitus. I sleep with a cpap machine and have constant ringing in my ears which I'll have the rest of my life.

  * Had the worst year in business with everyone trying to save money due to the economy.

  * Didn't go on my planned 10 day vacation with everyone so sick. Sat home and did nothing.

  * Lent my daughter money to purchase a new home. Her bank didn't come through at the last second to close on the purchase. So we took out home loan help her close. She cannot get a new mortgage until she lives in home for six months. Hope I see my money soon.

  * Fell and hurt my back. Have a herniated disc which I will not repair. Hope I can live with the pain.
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  The privileged Bethel speakers and the rest of us Jamokes.

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  cicero,illinois 1970's.

  our four day assemblies in the 1970's through the 1980's were pure torture.. they were held at a horse race track in cicero,il in the smoking hot and humid month of july.

  they charged around $2 for parking.

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  OnTheWayOut

  The N.I.U. basketball auditorium in Dekalb, Illinois is where my family attends the summer assemblies. It is about an hour away from their house. They leave at 8:00 a.m. and arrive home around 6:30 p.m. Talk about a long day!

  My family somehow made it through the Hawthorne racetrack conventions with it's brutal heat. But as my family aged, the conventions at White Sox Park were more brutal. The stands were more open with no shade. The upper decks were so steep that you needed to firmly hold the handrails or you would fall. The sun beat on you all day long. The only relief was if the clouds blocked the sun. The skyboxes were the only way to go. But,as you said... they were taken by the elite.

  The Bethel family and all the planners should of been made to sit outdoors in these venues with no water and suffer heat stroke. Then they would of understood why Witnesses hated outdoor venues.
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  The privileged Bethel speakers and the rest of us Jamokes.

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  cicero,illinois 1970's.

  our four day assemblies in the 1970's through the 1980's were pure torture.. they were held at a horse race track in cicero,il in the smoking hot and humid month of july.

  they charged around $2 for parking.

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  GO TO FINDAGRAVE.COM AND TYPE IN WILLIAM LLOYD BARRY . YOU WILL FIND THAT HE COLLAPSED GIVING A TALK IN A CONVENTION IN HAWAII. CAN SOMEONE CUT AND PASTE. I CAN'T SEEM TO DO IT.

  THANKS PAINTEDTOENAIL AND WILLIAMHCONLEY FOR THE INFO.
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  The privileged Bethel speakers and the rest of us Jamokes.

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  cicero,illinois 1970's.

  our four day assemblies in the 1970's through the 1980's were pure torture.. they were held at a horse race track in cicero,il in the smoking hot and humid month of july.

  they charged around $2 for parking.

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  GO TO FINDAGRAVE.COM AND TYPE IN LLOYD BARRY . YOU WILL FIND THAT HE COLLAPSED GIVING A TALK IN A CONVENTION IN HAWAII. CAN SOMEONE CUT AND PASTE. I CAN'T SEEM TO DO IT.

  THANKS PAINTEDTOENAIL AND WILLIAMHCONLEY FOR THE INFO.
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  The privileged Bethel speakers and the rest of us Jamokes.

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
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  cicero,illinois 1970's.

  our four day assemblies in the 1970's through the 1980's were pure torture.. they were held at a horse race track in cicero,il in the smoking hot and humid month of july.

  they charged around $2 for parking.

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  The privileged Bethel speakers and the rest of us Jamokes.

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  cicero,illinois 1970's.

  our four day assemblies in the 1970's through the 1980's were pure torture.. they were held at a horse race track in cicero,il in the smoking hot and humid month of july.

  they charged around $2 for parking.

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  Cicero,Illinois 1970's

  Our four day assemblies in the 1970's through the 1980's were pure torture.

  They were held at a horse race track in Cicero,IL in the smoking hot and humid month of July. They charged around $2 for parking. It smelled awful from the horse barns that were located next to the track. There were no cool breezes. Just stagnant hot air.

  We were told not to hold seats before each assembly. You arrived one hour before the start of the assembly and all the seats that were in an enclosed area with air conditioning were all taken. You would have no choice but to sit outside in the sweltering sun or sit in the stands that had some shade. Sitting outside for 8 hours gave you heat stroke.

  The afternoon session always had a Bethel speaker (who probably stayed at a nice hotel downtown and was privilged to hear the assembly in the enclosed air conditioned area). As we are all suffering heat stoke sitting outside in the smoking hot sun, here comes the asshole Bethel speaker walking with an attendent holding an umbrella over his head. They walk him over to the podium ( which is shaded )and he gives his 1 hour boring monotone talk. He finishes his talk and here comes the attendent holding the umbrella over the Bethel speakers head to walk him over to his air-conditioned seat.

  The rest of us JAMOKES will go thru this another 3 days.
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  Which of the 5 weekly meetings did you hate the most?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  it was always stressed that the five weekly meetings were like the fingers on your hand.

  each one was just as important as the next.

  which of the meetings were the most boring,bothersome and difficult to listen to?

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  THEOCRATIC SEDITION : Your whole post made me laugh! Especially when you wrote:

  The other thing that sucked was getting off of work and rushing to get back home so I could change clothes and clean up and for what? To sit somewhere for an hour discussing something that I can't even remember nowadays. All that retarded crap stuffed into one hour, the Jonadab class, the seven trumpet blasts, the measuring rod and what the inches represented, and unlimited lessons in stupidity!!!

  I remember getting off work at 7:00 p.m. on Monday nights, throwing food in my mouth and rushing home to shower and get dressed for the Book study. The book we were studying was, '' THE NATIONS SHALL KNOW THAT I AM JEHOVAH'' HOW?

  Talk about stupidity! The study was about the book of EZEKIEL and how the UNITED NATIONS would turn on the Jehovah's Witnesses. My brain still hurts!
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  Which of the 5 weekly meetings did you hate the most?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  it was always stressed that the five weekly meetings were like the fingers on your hand.

  each one was just as important as the next.

  which of the meetings were the most boring,bothersome and difficult to listen to?

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  It was always stressed that the five weekly meetings were like the fingers on your hand. Each one was just as important as the next. Which of the meetings were the most boring,bothersome and difficult to listen to? Here is my list:

  1. SERVICE MEETING : Nothing more boring than listening to a sales meeting on how to present a book, magazine, or tracts week after week. And don't forget the fake householder who would always accept the book study and magazines.

  2. MINISTRY SCHOOL : Listening to little boys around 9 years old (who could barely read) read scriptures while grown woman had to pretend they were talking to another person while out in field service or a Bible Study. Listening to monotone speaking brothers who could barely read.

  3. PUBLIC TALK : Talks that are presented year after year with monotone speaking brothers who would put you to sleep on a Sunday morning. Talks that would include on what Jehovah thinks about anal sex, oral sex, gay sex and masturbation in front of little children and senior citizens.

  4. WATCHTOWER STUDY : Read paragraph, answer underlined and repeat. Half of Watchtower studies are about obeying the Faithful and Discreet slave and Elders. Rules are always introduced through the magazine.

  5. BOOK STUDY : The WTS way of selling books that are sitting in a warehouse that need to be cleared. How many times can you study the ''BABYLON THE GREAT '' book? The only reason it was the least boring of the five meeting was that it was only 1 hour and cookies,cake and coffee were available after the weekly study.
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  Milan Italy – Public Demonstration against ostracism practiced by the Watchtower.

  by Nick! in

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  milan italy public demonstration against ostracism practiced by the watchtower.. .

  two years after rome, yesterday december 1st, day by day, we were about 100 of us demonstrating on a public square in the center of milan, italy.. .

  at about 10-11 a.m. many of us were already on the spot, installing our gazebo on the public square where we were granted authorization by the police and starting the distribution of about 4000 tracts to passersby in the surrounding squares, boulevards and streets exposing the watchtower for its teachings and instructions on discriminating those who decide to use their rights to walk away from this religious movement without to have to incur the ostracism imposed by the leadership.

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  Roberto This is one thread that everyone on JWN should read! It is the most important issue that we need to address to the WATCHTOWER SOCIETY.

  The WTS has over the years brought cases to the Supreme Court for their rights to engage in evangelism. They have rights to preach house to house, rights to print books, rights for no-blood transfusions and the rights of not paying any taxes on all their profits on the selling of books, magazines and all real estate property.

  The right to leave a religion is a human right. The WTS will not anyone exit without any penalties. The penalties are a heavy burden to carry. You will be called an oppostate,your family and friends inside the congregation will be told not to associate with you. The only way to avoid the shunning is to stay inside the organization and follow all the rules.

  I have seen the cruelty of shunning. I have started threads on JWN on how my cousin was made to leave the house when his mother died because fellow congregation members paid a visit to the family. How my cousin was made to stand on the side of the funeral home and not in the front row because he was disfelloshipped. How he was asked to leave his house when lunch was served on the day of his mother's burial. How he was asked to leave his grandfather's hospital room last year when the elders paid a visit. How the elders did not greet him when his mother and granfather died.

  Thank you ROBERTO for the work you and others are doing! The shunning policy really does work. It makes me sad that I need to hide behind this JWN site because of the fear of their shunning policy. Hope you succeed in your application to the ICSA board!
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  1975 - A weak argument?

  by Christ Alone in

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  i posted this on an older thread, but i wanted to get an honest opinion about this from all of you.

  i think taking the 1975 approach with a jw is...weak.

  was it wrong (and false prophetic) of them?

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  I was around 1975. They did not say that 1975 was the ''end'' but it was implied. Many Witnesses sold their homes and businesses to preach and pioneer. The WTS is known to use ''WEASEL WORDS'' like:

  "Some people say...''

  • "Some argue..."
  • "Contrary to many..."
  • "As opposed to most..."
  • "Research has shown..."
  • "...is widely regarded as..."
  • "...is widely considered to be..."
  • "...is thought to be..."
  • "It is believed that..."
  • "It has been said/suggested/noticed/decided/stated..."
  • "Some people believe..."
  • "Some feel that..."
  • "They say that..."
  • "Many people say..."
  • "It may be that..."
  • "Could it be that..."
  • "It could be argued that..."
  • "Critics/experts say that..."
  • "Some historians argue..."
  • "Considered by many..."
  • "Critics contend..."
  • "Observers say..."
  • "Fans say..."
  • "Accusations..."
  • "Apparently..."
  • "Allegedly..."
  • "Arguably..."
  • "Obviously..."
  • "Serious scholars/scientists/researchers..."
  • "Mainstream scholars/scientists/researchers..."
  • "The (mainstream) scientific community"
  • "It is claimed..."
  • "It should be noted that..."
  • "Correctly (justly, properly, ...) or not, ..."